Suicide, the Spirit and Karma
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Life is made of twists, turns and seeming uncertainty at all times.
Each positive experience strengthens us and offers us lessons. Each negative experience does the same. The main difference between the two is point-of-view.
Positive experiences, of course, make us feel the beauty of life and of our connectedness to other humans beings. Negative experiences can make the ugliness and painful nature of life seem more acute, make people seem unkind and distant.
I cannot say that I have gone through life without feeling depression, or indeed even despair. I have had plenty of hard times and many of them have been harder than most folks will have cause to experience in their own lives.
I have given lip service to suicide more than once in my life, never with any real intention or desire to carry it out, but as a way of voicing my options while the emotions ruled over the brain.
Still I know that there are some who do not give simple lip service to suicide but who are actually giving it serious consideration. Some have written to ask me what, if anything, is the spiritual consequence of them choosing to commit suicide.
Well there are essentially two consequences of a person committing suicide, these are: nothing and something.
Suicide is often brought about by the strong belief that nothing is going to change, that suffering or loneliness or sadness, etc. is going to continue indefinitely. So the first consequence is that SOMETHING has indeed changed. You are no longer an active participant on the physical plane of existence.
Life is a vehicle for spiritual learning, for gaining experiences that propel your spirit toward ascension and oneness. So the second consequence of committing suicide is that you are now learning NOTHING on the physical plane. You have cashed in your ticket for metamorphoses and will now have to wait for the next flight.
What about personal responsibilities, soul debts and karma?
Well, in a post on a similar topic, my fellow lightworker Erin Pavlina suggested that your spirit must remain and work along side the guides of your loved ones in order to rearrange the great mess that you have left behind in your wake. She makes clear that you must fix your mess before you can cross over and begin working towards your next lifetime.
Prearranged meetings now cannot take place. Children you were going to have now have to find other parents or life circumstances. When you prematurely drop out of the play you leave a lot of people hanging. You can give up your role, but you cannot give up the responsibility you had in that role.”
Although this is a very valid explanation and I believe it leans close to universal truth in its essence, I have come to understand the effects of suicide in a different way, with the generous help of my guides and through my own life circumstances.
Suicide is like any other form of death in its essence. Death comes when we have learned our main lesson or fulfilled our main purpose in this life.
This is the general rule in any case of death.
It can occur, on rare occasion, that death is truly “untimely” in that the life to ceases exist before lessons and purposes have actually been completed. What ripple in the system of creation and manifestation brings about the accidental discontinuation of a life? I wish I knew.
That is not the point, however. The point is that if life comes to end, no matter the fashion, it is almost always at the RIGHT time.
As for being stuck or retaining continued responsibilities to the living, yes, it is possible that your own feelings of shock or regret about the manner and time of your death could conceivably cause you to be delayed in crossing over. But this is also the case with other forms of death and is by no means isolated to suicides alone.
The delay, if any, in proceeding to the next realm is not, however, related to our obligations or missed opportunities in this life and the need to repair them at all.
The notion that another person’s guides would agree to work directly with you, a disembodied spirit of low vibration with issues of its own to deal with, instead of directly with the person for whom they have been given charge, is misguided.
To assume that the requirements of another person’s path or life purpose will somehow not be met because you choose to end your life is a misunderstanding of the truth of the situation. This ignores the universal fact of individual free will and the truth of the infinite possibility within the creative powers of the All from whence we originate.
Child spirits will still be born, meetings will still take place, lessons will still be provided when required.
Though I am by no means advocating the self-defeating action of suicide, you must rest assured that, should you die suddenly in ANY way, the overall path of your loved ones lives will still lead them to their highest self in this incarnation.
As I have attempted to explain in the past, there are several different versions of this one reality being played simultaneously on different planes. Time is non-existent, a simple illusion, and therefore all possibilities and potential choices, twists and turns have already been chosen and all that you do in making a decision or action is to switch to that alternate possible reality.
There are several different paths that we can take in life to lead us to one important experience, lesson or opportunity. The milestones along our path are set out for us but the paths and means that we take to get there are not.
Therefore you cannot REALLY make a wrong decision.
The concept of hell or eternal purgatory is simply not a truth. What you may find, however, is that the next life provides you with patterns much the same as you experienced in this incarnation, for the simple fact that in order to get to the next level you must first perfect this level.
This is not to say that if you choose on your current path to commit suicide you will definitely be missing your “purpose” or “lesson” in this life.
Anyone who is recently deceased must go through several levels of realization before crossing over into the light and processing all that they have learned. It is there that the true nature of life and spirit can fully be understood and choices regarding the lessons and timing of the next incarnation can be made.
Understand that there is nothing that you can do which might take away your own free will. But, once you have died, there is also very little that you can do in THIS present time that will resolve the karmic energies of your actions during this lifetime.
Though you do still retain free will, it can be true that even if you may have learned your main lesson or served a valuable purpose in your shortened lifetime, you may have short-changed yourself on the opportunity to experience lessons that help to reconfirm and solidify the main theme that you came here to live out.
Thus, as you had already decided on what your next lesson or purpose was meant to be, the next time around you will most likely find yourself repeating similar patterns, challenges and relationships in order to solidify this part of the process and facilitate the foundation that you will need to have in order to move onto the next stage of your spiritual development.
The only thing that I can say for certain is that sudden death of a loved one, whether by suicide or other means, is extremely emotionally scarring for those left behind. It can change forever their personalities, their direction, their relationships and their outlook on life.
You may be willing to accept the extra work that you yourself will have to do as a consequence of your actions but can you really accept the extra work that you may cause for those you love?
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Posted: August 28th, 2007 under Health, Relationships, Self Development.
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August 28th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Vera,
I think you nailed the issue of suicide a the end of this post.
I too have experienced the suicide of a family member, and while it didn’t impact me greatly, I saw what it did to those closest to the person.
For those who choose to kill themselves, it is the ones they leave behind who suffer the most.
Once you’re coming from a spiritual perspective of life, once you understand the Oneness of All, I would venture that it would be near impossible to kill yourself because you would be acutely aware of the ripples of impact and unable to bring yourself to cause that much pain to the ones that love you.
Illuminating post.
Much joy,
KL
August 29th, 2007 at 12:32 am
Vera, thank you for these insights. My nephew committed suicide less than a year ago. I have seen the downward spiral that my sister has taken since then. Everything that goes wrong in her life she blames on her son’s suicide. I know that it is the choices that she herself makes that is causes her downward spiral.
I once lost my best friend when she was murdered. It caused me to question everything that I knew about myself, at the time. It was a very long time before I felt any sense of balance again in my life.
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